Legislature(1997 - 1998)

03/10/1997 01:44 PM House FIN

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        HOUSE BILL NO. 112                                                     
                                                                               
             "An  Act amending the  definition of  `political party'           
             except as  the definition  of the  term applies to  the           
             regulation of  contributions and expenditures  in state           
             and  municipal election  campaigns,  an amendment  that           
             also  has  the  effect of  changing  the  definition of           
             `political organization'  as applied to  the regulation           
             of games of chance and contests of skill."                        
                                                                               
        REPRESENTATIVE AL VEZEY, SPONSOR, testified in support of HB
        112.   He maintained  that HB 112  would bring  order to the           
        chaos in the  electoral process.  He observed that political           
        parties  must run  a candidate  for Governor  and receive  3           
        percent of the vote cast in  that general election, in order           
        to  retain their  legal  status.    He observed  that  third           
        parties are growing.  He noted the  last time a Governor was           
        last elected with a majority vote was in 1970.  He explained           
        that  the  legislation  would  provide  a  mechanism  for  a           
        political  party  to  retain its  status  without  running a           
        candidate for Governor  every four years.  He  observed that           
        political  parties  have  special  status under  the  Alaska           
        Public  Offices Commission  (APOC).   Political  parties are           
        able  to   participate  in  charitable   gaming  activities.           
        Political parties must file APOC reports.                              
                                                                               
        Representative   Vezey   observed   that  10,000   represent           
        approximately  3  percent  of the  registered  voters.   The           
        legislation allows a party that has 10,000 registered voters           
        to retain party status under Alaska statutes without running           
        a candidate for governor.                                              
                                                                               
        Representative  Davies  observed  that  the  Republican  and           
        Democratic parties would  not be affected.   He stated  that           
        the  Alaska  Independent  Party  (AIP)  has  more  than  the           
        required 10,000 registered voters.                                     
                                                                               
        Co-Chair  Therriault  noted  statistics  for  the  following           
        parties:                                                               
                                                                               
   *Democrats - 71,000;                                                        
                                                                               
   *Republicans - 104,000;                                                     
                                                                               
   *Alaska Independent Party - 16,000; and                                     
                                                                               
                                                                               
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   *Green Party - 3,000.                                                       
                                                                               
        Representative Davies  summarized that  the AIP  party would           
        not have to  run a  candidate, while the  Green Party  would           
        have to run  a candidate  for governor in  the next  general           
        election.  Representative  Vezey estimated that  there would           
        be a concentrated registration drive if the legislation were           
        passed.                                                                
                                                                               
        Representative Grussendorf asked  if the Sponsor  considered           
        requiring the  gubernatorial candidate to  receive more than           
        45 percent of the vote.  Representative Vezey clarified that           
        his  intent is to lessen the  need for a runoff election and           
        allow small parties  to retain their  status if they do  not           
        run a candidate.                                                       
                                                                               
        Representative  Grussendorf pointed  out  that many  smaller           
        parties  are trying  to  influence election  issues  through           
        their  candidates.    Representative   Vezey  observed  that           
        smaller  parties  would  not  be  precluded from  running  a           
        candidate.                                                             
                                                                               
        JIM  BALDWIN, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY  GENERAL, DEPARTMENT OF LAW           
        observed the  need to  document the  interest that  is being           
        served by the legislation.  He observed that the legislation           
        is a limitation on  the right of political association.   He           
        noted that the Court ruled in Vogler versus Miller, that the           
        State must have a compelling  governmental interest to place           
        limitations  on   political  recognition  for   purposes  of           
        admission to the primary election ballot.  He suggested that           
        the legislation cannot  be defended on  the premise that  an           
        election of  a gubernatorial candidate by a majority vote is           
        paramount.  He observed that under the legislation the Green           
        Party would not be a recognized party and the AIP would be a           
        recognized party.                                                      
                                                                               
        Mr.  Baldwin  observed  that  most  states  require  that  a           
        political party meet a percentage of those that voted in the           
        last primary election.  Once a  party is recognized they are           
        included on  the ballot without petition.   He observed that           
        in  order to  meet the registration  requirement individuals           
        must disclose their  party affiliation before the  party can           
        achieve recognized party  status.  Registered voters  do not           
        have to disclose their party  affiliation.  This requirement           
        could  be  seen  as  a  compulsory disclosure  of  political           
        affiliation.  He  noted that these  kinds of limitation  are           
        upheld only  when there is  nothing less intrusive  to serve           
        this interest.    He acknowledged  that an  attorney of  the           
        Republican Party has challenged his interpretation.                    
                                                                               
        Co-Chair Therriault noted that voter registration  would not           
        be  the  only route  to  obtain recognition  as  a political           
                                                                               
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        party.                                                                 
                                                                               
        Representative Kelly observed that if the Green Party gets 3           
        percent of the vote in a  general election for governor they           
        would retain their status.                                             
                                                                               
        Co-Chair  Therriault  emphasized that  no  rights  are being           
        taken away.                                                            
                                                                               
                                                                               
        Co-Chair Hanley noted that the  Court ruled in Vogler versus           
        Miller  that  the standard  was  too high.   He  asked  if 3           
        percent is a defendable amount.  Mr. Baldwin stated that the           
        Court indicated that 3 percent would be acceptable.                    
                                                                               
        GAIL   FENUMIAI,  DIVISION  OF   ELECTION,  OFFICE   OF  THE           
        LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR noted  that 213,404  votes were cast  in           
        the last general election. Three percent of those that voted           
        is 6402.   Co-Chair Hanley noted that the 10,000 requirement           
        is higher than 3 percent.                                              
                                                                               
        Mr. Baldwin noted  that 10,000 is  an arbitrary number.   He           
        emphasized  that  the  Department would  like  to  have some           
        rationale to  defend the number.   Co-Chair Hanley  spoke in           
        support of setting  the limit at  3 percent of the  previous           
        election.                                                              
                                                                               
        In response to a question by Representative Grussendorf, Ms.           
        Fenumiai noted that  there are 420,000 registered  voters in           
        the  State of Alaska.   Representative Grussendorf expressed           
        concern  that  a  fixed  number  would  not  grow  with  the           
        population.                                                            
                                                                               
        Co-Chair Therriault  noted that  the Green  Party had  3,088           
        registered  voters.    Representative Grussendorf  suggested           
        that the legislation grandfather in all the major recognized           
        parties in the  State.  Co-Chair Therriault noted that 3,088           
        is  less  than 1  percent of  the  registered voters  in the           
        State.                                                                 
                                                                               
        Representative Martin observed that the  State of Alaska has           
        a  high  percentage  of  voter's  registration  due  to  the           
        Permanent Fund Dividend  Program.   He spoke  in support  of           
        basing political party status on a percentage of  those that           
        voted, rather than on registered voters.                               
                                                                               
        Representative  Davies  cited  statistics  of  other  states           
        requirements  for  the  granting  of  political party.    He           
        demonstrated that other  requirements by  other states  vary           
        from  one-twentieth  of  one  percent   to  one  percent  of           
        registered voters.                                                     
                                                                               
                                                                               
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        JACK COGHILL, CHAIRMAN, ALASKA  INDEPENDENT PARTY, testified           
        via the teleconference  network in  support of HB  112.   He           
        observed that the legislation provides two avenues to retain           
        political  party status.   He stressed  that there  would be           
        savings in the Division of Elections if small parties do not           
        have  to run a candidate.   He noted that it  is the goal of           
        AIP to build political strength.  He observed that AIP would           
        not run a candidate, in the next gubernatorial  election, if           
        they did not have to do so to retain their status.                     
                                                                               
        Representative  Davies  noted  that  AIP  could  support the           
        Republican  candidate for  Governor and  still retain  their           
        status.  He observed that, under the legislation, the  Green           
        Party would have to  run a candidate to retain  their status           
        as a political party.                                                  
                                                                               
        Mr.  Coghill noted  that AIP  wants to  be able  to build  a           
        foundation for a political structure,  in order to challenge           
        the political process in future years.                                 
                                                                               
        In  response  to a  question  by Representative  Davies, Mr.           
        Coghill noted that he would support the substitution of one-           
        percent of registered voters.                                          
                                                                               
        In response to a question by Representative Grussendorf, Ms.           
        Fenumiai explained that supports of the Liberation Party and           
        the  Constitutional  Party  are  listed  under  the  "other"           
        category.   Representative Grussendorf  observed that  these           
        parties would not be  likely to support AIP since  they will           
        be busy trying to gain recognition for their own party.                
                                                                               
        SCOTT   KOHLHASS,   ALASKA   LIBERTARIAN  PARTY,   FAIRBANKS           
        testified via the  teleconference network  in support of  HB
        112.  He  noted that the  legislation opens new avenues  for           
        obtaining  political  party  status.   He  pointed  out that           
        Alaska is one of the more  difficult states to obtain ballot           
        access.    He noted  that  in some  other  states sufficient           
        ballot signatures result in full party status.  He asked why           
        small parties are required to petition  for each office as a           
        limited political party.                                               
                                                                               
        In  response  to a  question  by Representative  Davies, Mr.           
        Kohlhass noted  that he  would support  the substitution  of           
        one-percent of the  registered voters.   He maintained  that           
        requiring 10,000 registered voters, for a political party to           
        retain  its legal  status  without running  a  gubernatorial           
        candidate, is "oppressive."                                            
                                                                               
        Co-Chair  Therriault  noted that  the Division  of Elections           
        would need computer modifications.                                     
                                                                               
        Mr. Kohlhass observed that the  Alaska Civil Liberties Union           
                                                                               
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        has advocated that one-tenth  of one percent of the  vote be           
        required to maintain ballot status.                                    
                                                                               
        KEVIN  MORFORD,  MEMBER,  GREEN  PARTY  testified  via   the           
        teleconference network.   He noted  that he is  an attorney.           
        He  emphasized  that  the  legislation  addresses  important           
        constitutional rights.                                                 
                                                                               
        (Tape Change, HFC 97-52, Side 2)                                       
                                                                               
        Mr. Morford  noted that  there are  two ways  to get  on the           
        ballot.  A  candidate can run  as a  member of a  recognized           
        political  party  with   ballot  access  or   by  nominating           
        petition.   The  legislation will  not change the  manner in           
        which political parties  are able  to initially qualify  for           
        ballot  access.   He  observed that  a party  could register           
        voters until they  have ballot  access.  He  noted that  the           
        Green  Party is  the only  registered  party that  could not           
        maintain  its   status  without  running  a   candidate  for           
        governor.  He stressed the importance of maintaining a level           
        playing field.                                                         
                                                                               
        Mr. Morford  referred to the  sponsor statement for  HB 112.           
        He  noted  that  the sponsor  statement  concludes  that the           
        legislation would result in Alaska's governors being elected           
        by a  larger plurality of voters.  He observed the intent of           
        the bill  is to  cut down  on the  number of candidates  for           
        governor, and thereby  achieve elections in which  governors           
        are more likely to be elected by a  majority.  He maintained           
        that it  is not legitimate to try to  cut down on the number           
        of candidates  by limited ballot access.   He suggested that           
        multiple ballots could be utilized to achieve plurality.  He           
        maintained that the 10,000 requirement is not justified.  He           
        pointed out that 50 percent of Alaskan registered voters are           
        not affiliated with a party.  He noted that  there were more           
        votes  cast for the Green Party than were registered members           
        of the party.   He  stated that  it does not  make sense  to           
        require a higher  number to be  registered for a party  than           
        the amount it received in a general election.                          
                                                                               
        Mr. Morford suggested the adoption of uniform rules, an even           
        playing field and that ballot  access be based on reasonable           
        numbers.  He supported the use of 3 percent of the vote or a           
        smaller number of registered voters.                                   
                                                                               
        JIM  SYKES, GREEN  PARTY  testified via  the  teleconference           
        network.  He acknowledged the need  for other criteria to be           
        considered.  He questioned why other statewide races are not           
        counted  equally.   He  provided  members with  a memorandum           
        presenting three options for amendment to HB 112 (attachment           
        1).   He spoke in support of the  amendments.  He noted that           
        AIP and the Green Party received more than 3 percent  of the           
                                                                               
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        vote  in several previous statewide  races.  Option B, under           
        the proposed  amendments,  would require  that  a  political           
        party  run at least  three legislative  races and  receive 3           
        percent of the vote.   He agreed that it takes a lot of time           
        and energy to run  races.  He maintained that  a requirement           
        for 10,000 registered  voters is different from  the way any           
        other states operate.  He spoke in support of a registration           
        requirement of  one percent of  the registered  voters.   He           
        observed that  the  Alaska Supreme  Court  has a  record  of           
        striking down  unreasonable ballot access requirements.   He           
        urged the Committee  to replace  the requirement for  10,000           
        with  the suggestions contained  in Attachment 1.   He noted           
        that  there are  ballot options that  would allow  voters to           
        prioritize their choices to allow a majority to be obtained.           
        He emphasized that  the Green Party should  receive the same           
        treatment as other parties.                                            
                                                                               
        Representative Vezey  clarified that the  10,000 requirement           
        was  based  on, what  was  at that  time,  3 percent  of the           
        registered voters.  He clarified that the legislation is not           
        about ballot access.  He maintained that  the legislation is           
        about the ability to maintain political party status without           
        being  on the  ballot.   He observed that  political parties           
        could have any number  of gaming permits.  He  questioned if           
        the Legislature wants to make it easy for inactive political           
        parties to have access to gaming permits.                              
                                                                               
        Representative Martin agreed with comments by Representative           
        Vezey.  He  suggested that political parties  not be allowed           
        to have pull-tab permits.                                              
                                                                               
        Representative Davies  provided  members  with  Amendment  1           
        (copy  on  file).    Representative  Davies MOVED  to  adopt           
        Amendment    1.        Representative    Martin    OBJECTED.           
        Representative Davies explained that Amendment 1 would allow           
        a political party to run in three other statewide races as a           
        means to  validate its  status as  a party.   Representative           
        Vezey spoke against  the amendment.   A roll  call vote  was           
        taken on the MOTION.                                                   
                                                                               
        IN FAVOR: Davies Grussendorf, Moses                                    
        OPPOSED:  Davis, Foster, Kelly, Martin, Therriault, Hanley             
                                                                               
        Representatives Mulder and Kohring were absent for the vote.           
                                                                               
        The MOTION FAILED (3-6).                                               
                                                                               
        Co-Chair Hanley MOVED to adopt  Amendment 2 (copy on  file).           
        He explained that Amendment 2 would provide that a political           
        party have registered voters equal to 3 percent of the votes           
        cast for  governor at the  proceeding general election.   He           
        observed that this is a lower standard than three percent of           
                                                                               
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        the registered voters.   The number would fluctuate based on           
        the number of registered voters.                                       
                                                                               
        Representative  Davies MOVED  to  AMEND Amendment  2; delete           
        "three-percent"   and   insert   "one-percent."     Co-Chair           
        Therriault OBJECTED.  Representative Davies spoke in support           
        of the amendment.   He noted  that the amount would  require           
        that  a party have 6,400 registered  voters, before it could           
        retain its  legal  status without  running  a  gubernatorial           
        candidate.  He stressed that 6,400 would be greater than the           
        Green Party currently has registered.  He observed that one-           
        percent would  require that  a party  have 2,200  registered           
        voters.   He stated that this  would be equal to the highest           
        standard of any state in the nation.                                   
                                                                               
        Co-Chair Hanley spoke against the amendment.  He pointed out           
        that one-percent of the registered voters is more  than one-           
        percent of the vote.  He  maintained that three-percent is a           
        defensible number.  He stressed that it is less restrictive.           
        Representative   Martin   spoke   against   the   amendment.           
        Representative Davies emphasized  that the  Green Party  has           
        consistently  received   more  votes   than  its  share   of           
        registered voters.  He maintained  that Alaskans value their           
        privacy.                                                               
                                                                               
        A roll  call vote was taken on the MOTION to amend Amendment           
        2.                                                                     
                                                                               
        IN FAVOR: Davies Grussendorf, Moses                                    
        OPPOSED:  Davis, Foster, Kelly, Martin, Therriault, Hanley             
                                                                               
        Representatives Mulder and Kohring were absent for the vote.           
                                                                               
        The MOTION FAILED (3-6).                                               
                                                                               
        Co-Chair  Hanley clarified  that the  amendment  pertains to           
        votes at the  last gubernatorial election.   There being  NO           
        OBJECTION, Amendment 2 was adopted.                                    
                                                                               
        Representative Davies MOVED  to adopt  Amendment 3 (copy  on           
        file).  Co-Chair Therriault OBJECTED.  He explained that the           
        amendment clarifies that, once a party reaches legal status,           
        it retains legal  status until it  fails to have  registered           
        numbers equal to that percentage.                                      
                                                                               
        Representative Vezey spoke against the amendment.                      
                                                                               
        Representative Davies  MOVED to  AMEND  Amendment 3,  delete           
        "one-percent" and insert "three-percent" on lines 6 and 9.             
                                                                               
        Co-Chair  Hanley  observed that  the  amendment is  based on           
        registered  voters.    He   summarized  that  the  amendment           
                                                                               
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        eliminates the ability  to qualify with the 3-percent of the           
        votes cast for a gubernatorial  candidate.  He stressed that           
        the  amendment would be  more limiting.   He  observed that,           
        under the amendment,  the Green Party  would not be able  to           
        put up a candidate for governor.                                       
                                                                               
        While  Representative  Davies  considered  Amendment 3,  Ms.           
        Fenumiai  discussed the  fiscal  note by  the Office  of the           
        Lieutenant Governor.  She explained  that the Division would           
        need to  modify their  computer system  to track  additional           
        parties.  In response to  a question by Co-Chair Therriault,           
        Ms. Fenumiai  explained that  the code  table would  require           
        updates.  She  observed that voter registration  reports and           
        voter cards would also  have to be modified.   She clarified           
        that the Division could not retrace voter records.                     
                                                                               
        Representative Davies suggested that the amendment should be           
        worded to  allow the  current provision   or  the  provision           
        contained in Amendment 3.  He WITHDREW Amendment 3.                    
                                                                               
        Representative Foster MOVED to report CSHB 112  (FIN) out of           
        Committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  with  the           
        accompanying fiscal notes.  Representative Davies  OBJECTED.           
        He maintained  that the legislation  would allow AIP  to not           
        run  a  candidate  and require  the  Green  Party  to run  a           
        candidate.  The Green Party would be required  to registered           
        50 percent more voters in order to not run a candidate.   He           
        stated that the  bill could be interpreted to have political           
        intent.                                                                
                                                                               
        A roll call vote was taken on the MOTION.                              
                                                                               
        IN FAVOR: Davis, Foster, Kelly, Kohring, Martin, Therriault,           
        Hanley OPPOSED:     Davies, Grussendorf, Moses                         
                                                                               
        Representative Mulder was absent for the vote.                         
                                                                               
        HB  112  was reported  out  of  Committee with  a  "do pass"           
        recommendation and with a fiscal  impact note by the  Office           
        of the  Lieutenant Governor, dated 2/26/97; and  with a zero           
        fiscal note by the Department of Revenue, dated 2/26/97.               

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